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Joe, I was on the edge of my seat waiting for you to make a point that you came ever-so-close to getting to: The "US Automobile" industry, now, means alot more than just "firms whose corporate parents are domicilied in the US and pay US income taxes."

That is, look at how many workers foreign brands, operating in the US employ. BMW, Daimler, VW, Toyota, Honda, etc all have factories in the USA, as well as corporate and administrative offices. These functions employ a significant amount of people, and produce an equally significant amount of product.

If you think about it, who the hell cares where the corporate parent is from, besides for pride? If the car is made in the USA - like BMW SUV's (in South Carolina, I believe), as far as I'm concerned, its more American than a Chevy that's made in Mexico.

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I agree with the above post. People keep saying that Toyota is Japanese, in fact most Toyota/Nissan/*Insert Name* are built in the US using mostly parts from US Suppliers.

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I agree wholeheartedly! I'm so frustrated with the mouthing off of people around me for having this very same opinion. They are so blinded by emotion and crippled by fear that they may have better opportunities because of the prospects you discuss here that they are (in these parts of Detroit at least) Speaking as if the "Big three go under this whole country will see another Great Depression!" They act as if the only way to continue LIVING is to have GM Ford and Chrysler existing as they have. I'm so frustrated I could literally puke if I hear another person ranting and whining about how we are all going to be victims if "The Big Bad South" gets their way. You'd think they were ready to grab their guns and cause another civil war over this.

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I actually wrote the above post, not Joe. Its also odd how nobody thinks about the other stakeholders in GM such as well, the company's creditors. Can't the creditors cut some slack and take a haircut to help support the company. Why does the US taxpayer have to take the hit BEFORE the company's creditors. Well, it is simply because the bankruptcy process (ie. a process by which creditors may have to take a hit in order to keep the company afloat) is something the UAW fears. Since it could mean the end of their contracts. Thus a government bailout is not the last chance to save the automakers, but the last chance to save the UAW's cushy contracts. In a bankruptcy process, the US automakers are actually likely to still survive, though shareholders would likely be wiped out and creditors would take a hit. Oh and the UAW contracts would be made less onerous. Thats the main fear of those lobbying for a bailout. But again, let me return to the simple question to ask in order to expose the UAW's intentions - "Why don't we first go through a process whereby the automakers' creditors make concessions like most companies in similar situations?" ... because thats called bankruptcy which the UAW fears.

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